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Vox Pop Vendetta?

Tuesday, April 20th, 2010

Debi Ryan emails:

Vox Pop has once again been seized by the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance for back taxes accrued in 2006 and 2007 while under the stewardship of Sander Hicks.

As I am sure you all remember, Vox Pop was seized just a few days before Christmas for the same reason.  At that time, we raised and made a payment of $10,000 towards the 2006 and 2007 unpaid taxes in the amount of $56,000 as a down payment and were in the process of negotiating a repayment plan that Vox Pop could realistically pay.  Unfortunately, the Supervisor we were working with has left the State agency, and his replacement will not be available until tomorrow.  We have paid, and continue to pay our current taxes.

At this point in time we are waiting to speak with the State to determine what the appropriate next steps are.  The midlevel representative from the State who chose to seize our assets today stated we must pay the complete newly assessed tax debt of $66,000 prior to reopening, but we are hoping to renegotiate with the new Supervisor.

On a more positive note, Vox Pop is proud to say that it has almost completely paid off the legacy debt to vendors, former employees and the landlord over the past year and we are optimistic that the warming weather will increse our revenue and allow us to accelerate our payments even further.  Ironically, we were poised to launch our new outdoor patio cafe with table service and anticipate being able to do so as soon as we are reopened.

Thanks so much for your continued interest and support and I will fill you in on further details as soon as they are available.

Debi Ryan
Vox Pop Inc.

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  • J

    Umm… so you made a $10,000 payment in December. And, then, ummm… nothing in the last 4 months on the back taxes? And at no point did you get a written agreement (interim agreement) during your “negotiations” that would not be subject to the whims of whatever… say, for example, a staffing change at the state tax authority?

    Furthermore, you prioritized vendors over the tax man?

    Something like Vox Pop is important to the neighborhood. A community gathering place… I don’t know if Vox Pop can pull it off. Good luck I guess, but…

  • bklynartiste

    And there’s the letter from Ms. Ryan. This is becoming ridiculously predictable.

  • Freddy

    Sounds like deja vu all over again…

  • Not an expert…

    Ok, so I don’t know a whole lot about business, but I understand prioritizing employees and vendors, especially if Vox had already worked out a “deal” with the state and if the debt to vendors was < back taxes owed. It seems like Vox was in no position to pay the full tax bill, and they needed vendors on their side to get the business up and running so that they could actually pay the tax man. If you can't get anyone to supply your shop, it's not sustainable.

    I DON'T understand why they didn't make sure this deal was personnel-switch proof. It also seems odd that the state would swoop down on Vox as soon as the supervisor they were working with left…maybe it's not a coincidence.

  • sarah

    i dunno, it seems to me that paying the vendors ASAP makes complete sense, as they’re the ones who supply the place with what it needs to actually operate and make money?

    i never go to voxpop and am not really invested in its future at all, but i am routinely saddened by the vicious contempt it prompts here. for all this talk about what a nice community we live in, ya’ll can be so nasty. debi may not be the best businesswoman in the world, but she’s clearly trying really hard and has gone above and beyond to be transparent with the folks who read this blog despite the constant vitriol. give it a rest.

  • http://overstiffdrinks.blogspot.com Jenn

    I agree that the contempt wears thin. Debi’s heart is in the right place, she just might have been too little too late.

  • Jamie

    sarah says:
    April 21st, 2010 at 10:07 am

    “i dunno, it seems to me that paying the vendors ASAP makes complete sense, as they’re the ones who supply the place with what it needs to actually operate and make money? ”

    It’s not an either or. I know that my business is expected to pay our vendors AND our employees AND our taxes.

    I don’t have any contempt for this business becuase I recognize that it’s not easy, and sometimes businesses fail for reasons that are outside the control of the people running things. But if they’re not financially stable after this long, maybe they just need to pack it in. Many small businesses, especially restaurants, fail. It happens all the time, but usually with much less drama.

  • sarah

    Jamie–fair enough. sounds reasonable to me.

  • James

    My point about prioritizing the vendors over the Tax Man is simple… vendors want your business and will work with you. They may not be willing to extend you credit until you shape up, but they will sell you all sorts of things on a cash basis. The Tax Man shuts you down (as clearly evidenced here) and has this immediate power and authority unlike any vendor. In other words, there’s lots of wiggle room with vendors. Cash purchases, finding new vendors, making partial ‘appeasement’ payments, etc. If they think you are even a marginally viable company, they will want to keep you business and work with you.

    The Tax Man, not so much… expecially when FOUR months pass and the only thing you’ve paid on back taxes in lip service.

  • Hmm…

    This “deal” with the Tax Man seems strange to me. Maybe it’s not a coincidence that his leaving and the 2nd closing of Vox came at the same time.

  • Switcheroo

    Can a lawyer out there explain this to the group?

    Vox Pop the corporation is under water. But the coffee shop Vox Pop that Debi has operated for the last couple of years seems to be doing OK. So what is to prevent Vox Pop from closing and Debi opening a new, sustainable coffee shop? Sure the shareholders would be wiped out, but I gather they’ve written off their investment many times already.

  • Cat

    Hey, Switcheroo…maybe that is a good idea…

  • inez

    Switcheroo> I think that is a good idea. Don’t businesses sometimes shut down and open up under a different name. Can’t this happen with VP? I think just the name is cursed. We need some Fen Shuei (sp) here.

  • john

    Switcheroo
    What you advocate is fraud. Did you formerly work at Goldman Sacks?
    Debi is trying to do the “right and proper” thing to do, and for
    what its worth, she has my support!

  • BROOKLYNITE

    From Hicks resume Vox Pop was a goldmine:

    CEO & FOUNDER
    VOX POP, INC.
    JULY, 2003 – JANUARY, 2009
    • Built a fun, community-empowering, fair-trade, live-events-oriented,
    coffee-house company. Our 2008 valuation was over $2.6 MM.
    • Achieved aggressive annual sales growth, with guerrilla marketing
    techniques, great web content, buzz, niche-marketing, and a profitable,
    50,000 unit print-run, tabloid newspaper, The New York Megaphone.
    • Lead the 2007 acquisition of Long Dash, LLC, and launched sideline
    print-on-demand business, “Publish Yourself!”
    • Achieved 2008 gross margins of 86% on our main product, fair- trade coffee.
    • Earned profitability in three years, with annual earnings of $46K on
    sales of $354K. Opened a second location in Manhattan.
    • Inspired independent action film “Able Danger” which featured our Vox
    Pop Brooklyn café.

  • http://www.crazystable.squarespace.com Brenda from Flatbush

    Maybe the perceived “contempt” was evoked by the aroma of political self-righteousness that wafted around VP more strongly than the coffee, at least any time I visited (which hasn’t been for quite awhile, since I found little to like about the place except their spunk). I am reminded of Fran Lebowitz’ comment that surly teenagers in their radical phase should refrain from railing the against the oppressor at the family dinner table through a mouthful of the oppressor’s standing rib roast. That said, I wish them luck getting their act (finally) together; I personally find it impossible to dislike them thanks to their damned spunk. Wouldn’t it be fun if someone opened a “Tea Party Parlor” next door, with posters of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck piped in, and leaflets for anti-Obama rallies next to the cash register? Granted it might not be very popular in this neighborhood, but it sure would generate some buzz, and not just from the caffeine. People would flood into VP just to “vote.” Hmmm…I think we’ve found the answer!

  • James

    Brenda, I actually think that would be very funny place. It could be a cafe version of the Colbert Report.