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		<title>By: manco</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-2#comment-13948</link>
		<dc:creator>manco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I could watch a kitchen nightmare of the Picket Fence. If the food is inconsistent I wouldn&#039;t want to potentially feel sick from seeing behind the scenes in the kitchen. A couple of posts mention reducing the menu which would be a good thing for this place. I can&#039;t speak for everyone but I would not want this place to fail because supporting local business is important especially in this economical climate. As for Kumo, yeah I was hoping for something better but haven&#039;t had any major issues with it. At least they could have got different signage and not use the San Remo font :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I could watch a kitchen nightmare of the Picket Fence. If the food is inconsistent I wouldn&#8217;t want to potentially feel sick from seeing behind the scenes in the kitchen. A couple of posts mention reducing the menu which would be a good thing for this place. I can&#8217;t speak for everyone but I would not want this place to fail because supporting local business is important especially in this economical climate. As for Kumo, yeah I was hoping for something better but haven&#8217;t had any major issues with it. At least they could have got different signage and not use the San Remo font <img src='http://ditmasparkblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: efine</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-2#comment-13937</link>
		<dc:creator>efine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad Picket Fence is here, and the Farm, and all the other places new and old, but I have had very disappointing service at PF, pretty consistently. The servers are friendly, but don&#039;t seem to know the rules of waiting, which were very well stated above by Carissa. Last time I went there, I had to go inside and ask for a menu and some water, after waiting a long time in the back - and I had made sure that they saw me come in and knew where I was sitting right away. I also had to seek out the server so I could pay - they were just hanging around the counter, never bothering to check to see if I or anyone else needed their checks.

I was surprised to read here that people have had bad experiences at the Farm lately, but after a recent visit there, I have to concur. The last time I was there, I was told a few minutes after ordering that they were out of what I&#039;d ordered. OK, no problem. I asked to see the menu so I could choose something else, and the server impatiently told me that the kitchen stops serving breakfast at 11 - it was well before 11, and people were still coming in to order breakfast. I fought the urge to remind him that I&#039;d already ordered, so please don&#039;t give me a hard time, but I was very annoyed by his attitude. I also had to order coffee twice, and then had to call him back to get sugar and a stirring spoon. These are basic breakfast things. I don&#039;t completely blame the server, though. He seemed to be the only one on that day, which isn&#039;t fair.  But he should know better than to rush customers, especially when they&#039;ve already ordered and it&#039;s the kitchen that&#039;s lacking, and not the customer. For the record, I&#039;m a former waiter and have worked many busy breakfast shifts. There are certain base rules of service that should be observed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Picket Fence is here, and the Farm, and all the other places new and old, but I have had very disappointing service at PF, pretty consistently. The servers are friendly, but don&#8217;t seem to know the rules of waiting, which were very well stated above by Carissa. Last time I went there, I had to go inside and ask for a menu and some water, after waiting a long time in the back &#8211; and I had made sure that they saw me come in and knew where I was sitting right away. I also had to seek out the server so I could pay &#8211; they were just hanging around the counter, never bothering to check to see if I or anyone else needed their checks.</p>
<p>I was surprised to read here that people have had bad experiences at the Farm lately, but after a recent visit there, I have to concur. The last time I was there, I was told a few minutes after ordering that they were out of what I&#8217;d ordered. OK, no problem. I asked to see the menu so I could choose something else, and the server impatiently told me that the kitchen stops serving breakfast at 11 &#8211; it was well before 11, and people were still coming in to order breakfast. I fought the urge to remind him that I&#8217;d already ordered, so please don&#8217;t give me a hard time, but I was very annoyed by his attitude. I also had to order coffee twice, and then had to call him back to get sugar and a stirring spoon. These are basic breakfast things. I don&#8217;t completely blame the server, though. He seemed to be the only one on that day, which isn&#8217;t fair.  But he should know better than to rush customers, especially when they&#8217;ve already ordered and it&#8217;s the kitchen that&#8217;s lacking, and not the customer. For the record, I&#8217;m a former waiter and have worked many busy breakfast shifts. There are certain base rules of service that should be observed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-2#comment-13858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly Picket Fence has failed the &quot;three strikes and your out&quot; test. I ate there three times and each experience ranged from disappointing to disgusting. Bad food, bad service. Nice backyard though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly Picket Fence has failed the &#8220;three strikes and your out&#8221; test. I ate there three times and each experience ranged from disappointing to disgusting. Bad food, bad service. Nice backyard though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13807</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was *always* thinking of Kitchen Nightmares over my last few visits there. It would be the perfect victim for Chef Ramsay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was *always* thinking of Kitchen Nightmares over my last few visits there. It would be the perfect victim for Chef Ramsay.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara-Ann</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13791</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been to the Fence in almost a year; have they changed owners again? *This was a great restaurant when Grant opened it in 2005 (Grant reminds me of Gordon Ramsay: not a nice guy, but he sure did know how to cook and run a restaurant). The food quality went a little downhill when the restaurant changed hands a few years back, but they kept a lot of the famous Fence menu items, like the mac n cheese. I am surprised that people are complaining about the service; I always had wonderful attentive waiters, and hardworking busboys/gals who were quick and efficient. **Their brunch is excellent (or at least it was up to a year ago, the last time I went there). **The Fence is a nice change from the pretentious hipster-(and Marty)-attracting, suck-your-money-fest known as The Farm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been to the Fence in almost a year; have they changed owners again? *This was a great restaurant when Grant opened it in 2005 (Grant reminds me of Gordon Ramsay: not a nice guy, but he sure did know how to cook and run a restaurant). The food quality went a little downhill when the restaurant changed hands a few years back, but they kept a lot of the famous Fence menu items, like the mac n cheese. I am surprised that people are complaining about the service; I always had wonderful attentive waiters, and hardworking busboys/gals who were quick and efficient. **Their brunch is excellent (or at least it was up to a year ago, the last time I went there). **The Fence is a nice change from the pretentious hipster-(and Marty)-attracting, suck-your-money-fest known as The Farm.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13779</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to go to PF all the time, but after enough bad experiences, we were going to give up.  But the last time we went (2 weeks ago), it was no better.  The problem is the place is very poorly managed.  The owner (at least I think he is the owner) was there, but not at all friendly.  The servers seem to spend time chatting at the counter, forcing customers to wave to them to get their attention.  I don&#039;t get the impression they are very happy working there.  Instead of the popcorn on the table, they brought over 4 small slices of almost-stale Italian bread (there were 4 of us) supermarket quality.  I wouldn&#039;t complain except this is not budget place.  We waited a long time for the food given the place was almost empty.  The food wasn&#039;t bad, but not worth the price.

I want to love and support PF.  I hope the owner is reading these posts.  He has to know that on a weekend night there is a wait for a table at Farm, PY, Top Cafe and even at San Remo.  Yet PF seems half empty. So clearly the posters here are not the only unhappy customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to go to PF all the time, but after enough bad experiences, we were going to give up.  But the last time we went (2 weeks ago), it was no better.  The problem is the place is very poorly managed.  The owner (at least I think he is the owner) was there, but not at all friendly.  The servers seem to spend time chatting at the counter, forcing customers to wave to them to get their attention.  I don&#8217;t get the impression they are very happy working there.  Instead of the popcorn on the table, they brought over 4 small slices of almost-stale Italian bread (there were 4 of us) supermarket quality.  I wouldn&#8217;t complain except this is not budget place.  We waited a long time for the food given the place was almost empty.  The food wasn&#8217;t bad, but not worth the price.</p>
<p>I want to love and support PF.  I hope the owner is reading these posts.  He has to know that on a weekend night there is a wait for a table at Farm, PY, Top Cafe and even at San Remo.  Yet PF seems half empty. So clearly the posters here are not the only unhappy customers.</p>
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		<title>By: carissa</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13774</link>
		<dc:creator>carissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this could be a perfect &quot;kitchen nightmares&quot; episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this could be a perfect &#8220;kitchen nightmares&#8221; episode.</p>
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		<title>By: carissa</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13772</link>
		<dc:creator>carissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SA:  I agree about the neighborhood and supporting it.  It&#039;s why many of us want to love it so much.  

I think the areas of improvement are implied in the complaints- be more consistent with food, bring food out at a reasonable time, apologize and make ammends when things don&#039;t go well (take things off the bill/free dessert etc), and overall appreciate your customers - I have rarely been greeted in there, or told thanks and goodbye. When it was mother&#039;s day and we went in with a big group, it was a nightmare and didn&#039;t feel celebratory at all, we felt like we were in their way.  The moms of the group should have been greeted and the morning should have been smoother.  Anticipate that you will be busy and adjust.

I had years as a waitress and loved my work- I&#039;d say there needs to be someone always at least saying &quot;hello&quot; upon someone&#039;s arrival, the basic checking in on tables, the servers need to be trained to consider their entire section as one table (meaning don&#039;t run back and forth for one errand/one table, see ALL the things your section needs, make one large round trip) and if all of that doesn&#039;t help, hire another server so that people have a good experience (and thus tip better, also more likely to come back and give more business- making everyone happier)  Maybe hire a food runner.  A great server could do it all, but with a kitchen that drives them nuts and then wanting to avoid communication with their customers...it&#039;s a bad cycle. The servers have to be given range to make things better- offer something to waiting customers, take something off the bill.  The management is to blame.

Mainly, communication.  Err on the side of over-communication and then when you learn to read your customers better, you can know when to back off.  

In terms of the atmosphere, all would be forgiven if all of the above just happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SA:  I agree about the neighborhood and supporting it.  It&#8217;s why many of us want to love it so much.  </p>
<p>I think the areas of improvement are implied in the complaints- be more consistent with food, bring food out at a reasonable time, apologize and make ammends when things don&#8217;t go well (take things off the bill/free dessert etc), and overall appreciate your customers &#8211; I have rarely been greeted in there, or told thanks and goodbye. When it was mother&#8217;s day and we went in with a big group, it was a nightmare and didn&#8217;t feel celebratory at all, we felt like we were in their way.  The moms of the group should have been greeted and the morning should have been smoother.  Anticipate that you will be busy and adjust.</p>
<p>I had years as a waitress and loved my work- I&#8217;d say there needs to be someone always at least saying &#8220;hello&#8221; upon someone&#8217;s arrival, the basic checking in on tables, the servers need to be trained to consider their entire section as one table (meaning don&#8217;t run back and forth for one errand/one table, see ALL the things your section needs, make one large round trip) and if all of that doesn&#8217;t help, hire another server so that people have a good experience (and thus tip better, also more likely to come back and give more business- making everyone happier)  Maybe hire a food runner.  A great server could do it all, but with a kitchen that drives them nuts and then wanting to avoid communication with their customers&#8230;it&#8217;s a bad cycle. The servers have to be given range to make things better- offer something to waiting customers, take something off the bill.  The management is to blame.</p>
<p>Mainly, communication.  Err on the side of over-communication and then when you learn to read your customers better, you can know when to back off.  </p>
<p>In terms of the atmosphere, all would be forgiven if all of the above just happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/picket-fence-love/comment-page-1#comment-13767</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to be in the minority here, in terms of experiences with PF staff: they have always been attentive and friendly, especially when food takes a bit longer to arrive. That is a kitchen issue, not a waitstaff issue. 

It seems to me that there are far too many choices on the menu. Perhaps if the kitchen did not have to prep for/serve so many different dishes, they could concentrate and become more efficient. They could start by looking at what gets ordered least and axe a few of those.

The food is decent. I like the veggie sides and veggie burgers (the only place to serve them in the neighborhood!) It would be even better, however, if most items were a dollar or two less. The place seems to be somewhat highly priced for the kind of food they serve. 

I might get hell for this comment, but I&#039;ll say it. Another area that could use improvement is the decor, especially the backyard. The decor is a bit chintzy or too cutesy. I&#039;m not sure what it is really, but it is a bit &quot;off&quot; (best I can describe it for now). The yard should be planted with herbs and cleaned up. It could be such a fantastic space. We enjoy it now as it is, because it is wonderful to be able to eat outside without waiting for a table, but the yard really has potential to be super.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be in the minority here, in terms of experiences with PF staff: they have always been attentive and friendly, especially when food takes a bit longer to arrive. That is a kitchen issue, not a waitstaff issue. </p>
<p>It seems to me that there are far too many choices on the menu. Perhaps if the kitchen did not have to prep for/serve so many different dishes, they could concentrate and become more efficient. They could start by looking at what gets ordered least and axe a few of those.</p>
<p>The food is decent. I like the veggie sides and veggie burgers (the only place to serve them in the neighborhood!) It would be even better, however, if most items were a dollar or two less. The place seems to be somewhat highly priced for the kind of food they serve. </p>
<p>I might get hell for this comment, but I&#8217;ll say it. Another area that could use improvement is the decor, especially the backyard. The decor is a bit chintzy or too cutesy. I&#8217;m not sure what it is really, but it is a bit &#8220;off&#8221; (best I can describe it for now). The yard should be planted with herbs and cleaned up. It could be such a fantastic space. We enjoy it now as it is, because it is wonderful to be able to eat outside without waiting for a table, but the yard really has potential to be super.</p>
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		<title>By: SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rug-B should not be part of this conversation.
They may have been first, but often more than 3/4 of the menu listed was not available. So what&#039;s the point.

It is important to care about whether a restaurant succeeds here as over the last 26 years living here I have watched Cortelyou Rd become a &quot;destination restaurant&quot; spot. This has made it possible for other small businesses to open and take a chance on surviving here, properties to maintain their value in this bad economy, and for all of us living here to have choices without having to leave the neighborhood.

Whether you like the food or service, or not, as someone living here you should feel somewhat invested in the businesses doing well.

I see a lot of complaining and not too much problem solving. That being said, I would like to suggest that we turn this conversation into forthcoming posters offering a suggestion for improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rug-B should not be part of this conversation.<br />
They may have been first, but often more than 3/4 of the menu listed was not available. So what&#8217;s the point.</p>
<p>It is important to care about whether a restaurant succeeds here as over the last 26 years living here I have watched Cortelyou Rd become a &#8220;destination restaurant&#8221; spot. This has made it possible for other small businesses to open and take a chance on surviving here, properties to maintain their value in this bad economy, and for all of us living here to have choices without having to leave the neighborhood.</p>
<p>Whether you like the food or service, or not, as someone living here you should feel somewhat invested in the businesses doing well.</p>
<p>I see a lot of complaining and not too much problem solving. That being said, I would like to suggest that we turn this conversation into forthcoming posters offering a suggestion for improvement.</p>
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