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Stabbing Outside Salahi UPDATED AGAIN

Friday, January 29th, 2010

salahi 2010 stabbing

I just talked to Detective Scotto at the 70th Precinct and he confirmed that three guys, who all knew each other, got into an altercation that led to much stabbing outside Salahi Deli on the corner of Cortelyou and Argyle early this morning. All three men were stabbed, one is in serious but stable condition and is expected to make it. The other two have been arrested, and the investigation is ongoing.

The blood on the steps of the deli, and along Cortelyou to John’s Bakery has been mostly cleaned up, and all the stores are open.

As a frequent customer of Salahi, I’m glad that the guys who work there are OK, if shaken, and hope that this is the last stabbing on this particular corner. They have been nothing but nice to us over the years, and run a decent store with one of the cheapest ATMs on the strip.

NOTE – for purposes of accuracy I changed the headline to Stabbing Outside Salahi.

- Liena

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  • Beth

    Until now, I have shopped there quite a bit because the owners were always friendly. However, I would now like to know what their role is in all of this violence, since it seems pretty clear that it is tied to drugs. What are the police doing to determine this? I do not intend to shop there any more.

  • Bubbah

    well, at least it wasn’t a random robbery/attack and no guns were involved. eventually the area will be too expensive for anyone who isn’t working 17-20 hours a day so this won’t happen anymore and folks who have the spare time and energy to stab eachother will move to less pricey surroundings. we can only hope.

  • GoneFromDitmasPark

    This is what people get when moving into an area that had gunshots ring out at least once every few weeks 5 years ago. None of the tugs are moving from there because they have rent stabilized/control apartments or had their grandparent buy that delapitated victorian next to yours. Good luck dodging. Kensington is much safer in that respect and all of a sudden, cheaper.

  • Hmmmm

    This blog is racist. The posters are racist. Please go away and take these racist bloggers with you. Ditmas park=racist. Plain and simple

  • wren

    Just spoke with a police officer about the investigation. It was a dispute that went awry. Two men were fighting, someone tried to break them up, stabbing commenced and each ran off in separate directions. This was in NO WAY connected to Salahi deli. In fact, it started on the bench in front of the tot lot. One person is in critical condition but stable.

    Don’t blow it out of proportion. We live in NYC. Don’t forget it.

  • Rinjo Njori

    I think the byline should be changed to Argyle Stabbing. The fight was consumated on argyle between the Salahi and the Tot lot. The injured parties went to John’s, The Salahi, and the Fire House. The fight did not start in the Salahi. Moe, Ali, Willy, and their other brothers & cousins are decent people who run a 24 hour shop. They are more than willing to tell riff-raff to take a hike and more than willing to help someone out seeking protection from getting beat, stabbed or shot. So please change the byline. They a beginning to think they have bad luck because all the bad stuff happens around their store. The Shooting a couple of years ago happened after the gunman and the victim got off a bus. The stabbing last year had to do with a brother trying to defend his sisters honor and saw the guy coming out of the Salahi. Again last night… the knife fight started in front of the Salahi. None of these incidents originated in the Salahi Brothers store. SO note to criminals out there, can you please do your stabbing, gunning, and beating in another neighorhood— Moe and the gang are getting bad PR. Bottom line wrong place wrong time…

  • Joey

    Perhaps if people weren’t allowed to hang out drinking at all hours on that length of sidewalk adjacent to Salahi’s on Argyle, this corner might be less of a problem.

  • Lauren

    I am a regular customer at Salahi and I live on Argyle right around the corner from where this stabbing occurred. The guys at Salahi are great. They work incredibly hard, and they have always been nothing but helpful and nice to me. I do wonder if the fact that they are open 24 hours sometimes makes them prone to late night incidents, but they themselves should not be held responsible. I will continue to go to Salahi.

  • Rosaly

    Agreed. Salahi guys seem very nice. I have heard guys in there who sound like they may be threatening the brothers, so I don’t know if they are involved in any sort of “protection” agreement–that’s speculation. But they seem like good people, and we continue to shop there. Also, how is this possible with the fire dept on the same block?

  • bkforman

    I agree with Joey. All of these corner places should be looked at. There is a lot of drug activity as many of them.

  • inez

    Any store that is opened 24hours will always have some sort of trouble. I lived on a block where there was a 24hour deli and at least once or twice a month someone was walking in shot or beat up. As far as I can remember that corner has always been a hot spot. I don’t think the fire dept. can do too much to avoid these things. If something is going to go down it’s just gonna happen. It’s just the nature of the beast. Thank god, it did not happen while there were kids in the tot lot. Since the last shooting I stopped taking my kids to the tot lot. It’s just way too risky.

  • Rugby

    Salahi is a great neighborhood asset….they protect our children everyday…if one of our children needs help they will be there….if I need help they will be there. They are kind men.

  • Sarah

    I would like to mention the guys who hang out on the street across from the tot lot – usually after 7pm. It’s a hang out and they are obnoxious — cat calling to women and making me feel like I have to cross the street to go down Argyle on the other side. Then there’s the guy who is often standing in front of the building, the first big one down the line. Any time I have come home after midnight on the train, he’s been there, looking like he’s on watch or something. He’s not directly in front of the building door but slightly north of there, out of the light. Why is he there? I don’t like men hanging out in the street and wouldn’t be surprised if they were linked to the events at Salahi.

  • Inez

    I would be more worried coming home in the middle of the night to an empty street. What I like about the nabe is that no matter what time of day it is there is always someone on the street.

    I get cat calls walking down the street in manhattan. Doesn’t really bother me much. I just ignore them.

    As far as the guy hanging near ur building if it bothers you so much why don’t u ask the building super to tell him not to loiter near the building. Obviously, the guy must be a looker and that is his post.

  • Sarah

    I don’t know how the bdlg works, I guess I could ask someone who lives there to see if they have anyone who monitors people loitering outside. But I do think he’s some sort of sentry as you say.

  • Kurt

    I think we have a responsibility as a community to do whatever is in our power to minimize the risk of this type of violent occurrence from happening again. From what I understand, that corner has been the origin of several violent altercations stretching back 20 years. Baseball bat beatings, shootings, and now multiple stabbings. So far the victims and perpetrators have been known to each other. We should consider ourselves lucky at that stroke of luck, but we shouldn’t count on remaining lucky. Any one of us could be at the wrong place at the wrong time. So let’s use whatever momentum and interest this event has created to rally our community and address the issue with the commanding officer of the 70th precinct. I’m happy to try and arrange a meeting. Ben and Liana, would you use this blog to gauge community interest?

  • Carolyn

    Blog posters have a responsibility to get their facts straight before reporting crime news that could potentially harm an area business. I see a police source was mentioned but perhaps also asking the deli operators for their eye-witness account would have provided a more balanced report. I shop at Salahi’s, almost daily. They welcome me and make me feel safe. I went in to see them after work yesterday and learned the incident did not take place there but that the injured men were cared for there. I agree with Lauren’s comment and I will continue to shop there.

  • http://www.ditmasparkblog.com Liena

    I think the post states quite clearly “stabbing outside Salahi Deli on the corner of Cortelyou and Argyle”. The initial report came via a neighbor who talked to the cops and Salahi was still a crime scene. As soon as we had reliable information, we updated.

  • Kurt

    I’ve been told that police have surveillance of the men entering and exiting Salahi Deli a number of times that evening. Whether the owners of the deli were involved is unknown to us at this time. What we do know is this: historically, that corner is the origin of several violent events. Which is why it’s important for us to do more than just talk to each other on this blog. We need to speak to the police and ask what they’ll do from preventing something like this from happening again.

  • tk

    A lot of the commenters seem to be talking past each other.

    Hand one: The Salahi guys are mostly good guys, and they work hard and watch out for people they know.

    Hand two: But the people they know include a number of jerkoffs and knuckleheads (and one schizophrenic) who hang out there at all hours, and it’s not just a fluke so much trouble happens there as opposed to say Fathers right across from the train (the blue awning deli with the excellent sandwiches, also 24 hours).

    I’ve lived here since before Salahi opened and shopped there for years before letting them know I’d no longer do business with them due to said knuckleheads.

    Back to hand one: I’m much happier that late at night I and my family members walk from the train past a well-lit open storefront with decent guys working inside rather than what would otherwise be two consecutive completely dark blocks, with no eyes on the street at all.

  • E

    Well put, tk.

  • Dan B

    In the shooting that happened back in 2004 outside Salahi, an innocent bystander was shot in the arm by a stray bullet. If I remember right she was 14 and just happened to be getting off the bus across the street.

    Last night my friend was in there and overheard one of the workers reassuring some heavy dudes who were inside the store that he knew the rule was “no snitching.” I’m just sayin’.

  • ARGYLE

    In my 30 years here, that corner store has not been frequented by the best residents of our neighborhood. Even when it was Farmer in the City, it was a problem location. Maybe it’s the 24 hour place to get beer or maybe they’re selling more.

  • Jaguar_Gorgonne

    Anybody who thinks that isn’t a drug corner, despite how friendly the brothers in the bodega may be, is an idiot.

  • bkforman

    I agree with Jaguar – As I have said many of these corner places are drug havens. Be Real.

  • Sasha

    I’m all for (and will attend) any meeting or other effort necessary to make the police pay more attention to this, to prevent this in the future, and to root out (if true) any sort of drug base/haven going on right there. No more violence.

  • Sasha

    P.S. If they don’t have cameras already there, monitoring, after the prior violence at that location, they should. Let’s get some cameras, all around the corners by the Tot Lot, and these might move.

  • Jaguar_Gorgonne

    Yeah, let’s have cameras! Police state!!! Great!!!

  • Ryan

    Would stop in Salahi almost everyday and buy the same 3 items. Started to notice the price was different depending on who worked there. Young kid $3.50. Old grumpy dude $4.25, $4.75, $5.50??? for the exact same items. I will happily walk an extra block and go to the Tibetan deli by the subway. Super nice. Clearly marked price tags on ALL items.