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	<title>Comments on: Vox Rises Again</title>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-5007</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica, info about the closing is supplied on Vox Pop&#039;s website - http://voxpopnet.net/news.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica, info about the closing is supplied on Vox Pop&#8217;s website &#8211; <a href="http://voxpopnet.net/news.php" rel="nofollow">http://voxpopnet.net/news.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-5005</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone (perhaps the blog&#039;s operators?) explain in a straight (opinion-free!) posting what&#039;s happened here? While it&#039;s valuable to get feedback from commenters, I&#039;ve got no idea why Vox Pop keeps closing and how best to prevent it from closing again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone (perhaps the blog&#8217;s operators?) explain in a straight (opinion-free!) posting what&#8217;s happened here? While it&#8217;s valuable to get feedback from commenters, I&#8217;ve got no idea why Vox Pop keeps closing and how best to prevent it from closing again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: no_slappz</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4990</link>
		<dc:creator>no_slappz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the founder of a failing business is an outright liar and his replacement is beholden to him, there is little chance of getting an accurate picture of the state of the operations.

What is the true financial condition of Vox? Frankly, it appears NO ONE, including management, really knows. However, it appears a new repayment schedule for the long overdue tax revenue has been arranged. Most of Vox&#039;s operating Costs and Expenses are known or easy to estimate.

But that&#039;s not enough. The announcement about the Fundraiser Blues Extravaganza to Save Vox is a strong indication that recent revenue figures are too low to meet current monthly expenses. In fact, holding the fundraiser suggests the NY Dept of Finance is holding a sword over Vox in the form of demanding a one-time major repayment -- or else.

Coincidently, Hicks slithered out of his ownership role at just the moment the responsibility of ownership might have turned into a big personal tax liability. Hicks included no relevant details about the source of the $10,000 he received for his Vox equity. Thus, the transaction is immediately a murky affair.

However, as any flim-flammer knows, when you can sell a worthless item for $10,000, you take the deal, especially if the sale indemnifies you against future liabilities related to the worthlessness of the thing that has been sold.

Prediction: After a year of wrestling with the Vox fraud and getting paid in worthless stock, Debi Ryan will begin looking for a new job that utilizes her management skills and compensates her fairly. With this experience on her resume, she can show prospective employers she is an accomplished problem solver and manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the founder of a failing business is an outright liar and his replacement is beholden to him, there is little chance of getting an accurate picture of the state of the operations.</p>
<p>What is the true financial condition of Vox? Frankly, it appears NO ONE, including management, really knows. However, it appears a new repayment schedule for the long overdue tax revenue has been arranged. Most of Vox&#8217;s operating Costs and Expenses are known or easy to estimate.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not enough. The announcement about the Fundraiser Blues Extravaganza to Save Vox is a strong indication that recent revenue figures are too low to meet current monthly expenses. In fact, holding the fundraiser suggests the NY Dept of Finance is holding a sword over Vox in the form of demanding a one-time major repayment &#8212; or else.</p>
<p>Coincidently, Hicks slithered out of his ownership role at just the moment the responsibility of ownership might have turned into a big personal tax liability. Hicks included no relevant details about the source of the $10,000 he received for his Vox equity. Thus, the transaction is immediately a murky affair.</p>
<p>However, as any flim-flammer knows, when you can sell a worthless item for $10,000, you take the deal, especially if the sale indemnifies you against future liabilities related to the worthlessness of the thing that has been sold.</p>
<p>Prediction: After a year of wrestling with the Vox fraud and getting paid in worthless stock, Debi Ryan will begin looking for a new job that utilizes her management skills and compensates her fairly. With this experience on her resume, she can show prospective employers she is an accomplished problem solver and manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4987</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Debi, no...you&#039;re working for stock?! Run, woman. RUN. Don&#039;t be another one of Sander&#039;s suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Debi, no&#8230;you&#8217;re working for stock?! Run, woman. RUN. Don&#8217;t be another one of Sander&#8217;s suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: bklynartiste</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>bklynartiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hicks ranks right up there with balloon-boy dad in craziness and attention-mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hicks ranks right up there with balloon-boy dad in craziness and attention-mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4985</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part:  &quot;So for her, for the shareholders, for the customers who miss their place, I did this. I did it for us.&quot;
Apparently he took the $10,000 as an act of selfless generosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part:  &#8220;So for her, for the shareholders, for the customers who miss their place, I did this. I did it for us.&#8221;<br />
Apparently he took the $10,000 as an act of selfless generosity.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteCollar</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteCollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is the person who gave Hicks $10,000 for worthless &#039;stock&#039;?  I got a bridge for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the person who gave Hicks $10,000 for worthless &#8216;stock&#8217;?  I got a bridge for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: no_slappz</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>no_slappz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hicks writes:

&quot;An offer was made to me to buy out my shares for $10,000. After talking to Debi, I decided to take the deal, and also donate 1/3 back to the company, donate 1/3 to Debi who has worked this year for stock.&quot;

Is this the final rip-off? Or is there more to come? Usually running a business into a ditch, defrauding investors, defrauding the Department of Taxation and stiffing vendors is enough to force the offender into forfeiting his stake for ZERO Dollars. Instead, Hicks has bamboozled people again.

Founders generally get their stock for free -- it is their compensation for delivering their brain-child. Thus, paying Hicks to buy out equity he obtained for nothing is yet another blunder. 

Creditors should scream. The guy who owns the equity is the guy with the claim on the Residual Value -- in other words, the value remaining AFTER all the other bills are paid. AFTER the creditors are paid. Hicks is absolutely the LAST person in line when it comes to getting money out of the business.

Once again, this is why bankruptcy was the way to go. In bankruptcy all equity is cancelled and the creditors get in line to get paid. Following that, everyone starts fresh.

Instead, hapless investors and overburdened customers were/are taken to the cleaners for $120,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hicks writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;An offer was made to me to buy out my shares for $10,000. After talking to Debi, I decided to take the deal, and also donate 1/3 back to the company, donate 1/3 to Debi who has worked this year for stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this the final rip-off? Or is there more to come? Usually running a business into a ditch, defrauding investors, defrauding the Department of Taxation and stiffing vendors is enough to force the offender into forfeiting his stake for ZERO Dollars. Instead, Hicks has bamboozled people again.</p>
<p>Founders generally get their stock for free &#8212; it is their compensation for delivering their brain-child. Thus, paying Hicks to buy out equity he obtained for nothing is yet another blunder. </p>
<p>Creditors should scream. The guy who owns the equity is the guy with the claim on the Residual Value &#8212; in other words, the value remaining AFTER all the other bills are paid. AFTER the creditors are paid. Hicks is absolutely the LAST person in line when it comes to getting money out of the business.</p>
<p>Once again, this is why bankruptcy was the way to go. In bankruptcy all equity is cancelled and the creditors get in line to get paid. Following that, everyone starts fresh.</p>
<p>Instead, hapless investors and overburdened customers were/are taken to the cleaners for $120,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on re-opening, Vox Pop.  Hope this time it&#039;s for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on re-opening, Vox Pop.  Hope this time it&#8217;s for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ditmasparkblog.com/food-drink/vox-rises-again/comment-page-1#comment-4977</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are the stakeholders in this alternative energy fund Hicks is managing, or more likely, running into the ground?  They should be warned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the stakeholders in this alternative energy fund Hicks is managing, or more likely, running into the ground?  They should be warned!</p>
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